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There’s a lot of “pot, meet kettle” claims & counterclaims of moaning & whingeing here.
There are probably several kinds of Aussies I can think of. There’s the digger from two world worlds who got with with his job of winning a war with minimum fuss. Then there’s the cattle drovers over two centuries who did likewise.
On the other hand there’s the inner city yuppies or by the sea mansion residents who feel that the rest of the country owes them a living or to live in poverty so they can live in the style they’ve become accustomed to.
And moan & whinge when they aren’t being more privileged than they already are.
So before we say Australians aren’t guilty of moaning & whingeing, which Aussies are we talking of?
Moaning & whingeing cuts across all boundaries, all countries. One comforting thought is there are more Indian whingers simply because their population is what, 2,000 times greater than ours, or whatever!
'Would have loved to': Gavaskar hits out at trophy snub, Kohli's 'garbage' sandpaper sledge, Konstas savaged for 'almighty slog'
matth,
I believe so. Bumrah can bat when his turn comes. But for his type of injury, Taufel called it an ‘internal’ injury, he must sit out the same amount of time he was off the field before he can bowl.
Internal injury might also be described as an injury the player carried into the match, not one he received onfield during the match.
Anyway, with Bumrah bowling I reckon we’re no chance. And I’m not sure it would be much better without him bowling.
This Aussie batting lineup gives me no confidence. While they have posted some good scores, they have also been diabolical at other times. And historically, Oz don’t seem to be good 4th innings players. Why, I don’t know.
In this series, with both sides having one innings to complete, Australia has averaged 27.55 per wicket to India’s 25.91. So Oz just ahead there.
Australia has averaged 30.82 to India’s 22.88 in the 1st innings, but this is reversed for the 2nd innings – 21.48 to 31.73.
So even in this series, there’s not much confidence about how Oz will cope with a 4th innings chase.
Pant’s T20 fireworks display gives India the edge as Australia’s Trophy hopes fade despite Boland machine's excellence
NQR,
I didn’t see that. Similar to the Starc no-catch back on the 2023 Ashes tour. Unfortunately, as soon as Khawaja walked it became a moot point. But it would have been interesting if he stood his ground.
I won’t respond anymore. Not because I don’t want to engage, because I do. But I’m fed up with The Roar taking me back to the start of the post instead of where I want to reply.
Scrolling down continuously is becoming tiresome.
Relentless Boland rampant on SCG seamer, third umpire under fire over contentious calls as Aussies rip through India
Don Freo,
We watched the same thing thing but drew different results. I won’t comment any further as I realise there are more important issues than whether Smith grassed the catch or not. If only we collectively turned our attention to more important matters.
Furthermore, I’m sick of this site returning me to the start of the post rather than the person I want to respond to.
Relentless Boland rampant on SCG seamer, third umpire under fire over contentious calls as Aussies rip through India
Don Freo,
Fingers are part of a hand, which is part of a wrist, which can turn.
Kinda like the same principle as gloves are to bat; bails are to wicket & grass is to ground…..
Relentless Boland rampant on SCG seamer, third umpire under fire over contentious calls as Aussies rip through India
Short ARM,
“I half agree Sheek.” Are you now invoking the 50% rule (remembering Starc’s lost appeal in Melbourne for hit wicket, or bail). 😂
Relentless Boland rampant on SCG seamer, third umpire under fire over contentious calls as Aussies rip through India
NQR,
As I suggested elsewhere, Smith & Cummins were too slow to enact the 50% rule. Remember how Starc lost a wicket in Melbourne because the the replays showed less than 50% of the ball hitting the bails.
So Smith should have told the umpire: “less than 50% of the ball made contact with grass therefore the ball never hit ground. He’s out, good sir”.
According to the rule of precedent, the less than 50% observation is now a legit appeal.
Relentless Boland rampant on SCG seamer, third umpire under fire over contentious calls as Aussies rip through India
Don Freo,
The grass is part of the ground; as the glove is part of the bat; as the bails are part of the wicket (except when less than 50% of ball is deemed to make contact with bails).
I’m now thinking Smith & Cummins weren’t quick enough to invoke the 50% rule: “Mr Umpire Sir, less than 50% of the ball caressed the grass, therefore I deem the ball to have NOT hit the ground. So he’s out, good sir”!
Relentless Boland rampant on SCG seamer, third umpire under fire over contentious calls as Aussies rip through India
NQR,
I saw enough replays to satisfy myself the ball caressed the grass. That’s enough contact. Anyway, we live in a world where everyone thinks they know everything.
So while I’m happy to express an opinion I always keep two pieces advice close to heart.
1. According to Aristotle, one of the greatest minds of humanity, always assume you know nothing.
2. Confucious observed that the person who thinks they have all the answers have not yet been asked all the questions.
Relentless Boland rampant on SCG seamer, third umpire under fire over contentious calls as Aussies rip through India
Don Freo,
Ahhh, James Brayshaw, fellow WA fellow. He’s one of the gooses that ought to be removed from commentary.
Relentless Boland rampant on SCG seamer, third umpire under fire over contentious calls as Aussies rip through India
NQR,
I’m guessing you’re talking about the Smith no-catch. As with the Jaiswal dismissal, both of them involve parts that are similar.
With Jaiswal’s dismissal, there was clear deviation off the bat despite snicko making no sound. The glove is considered part of the bat so he was out.
With Smith’s catch, he momentarily lost control when it bubbled out & made contact with the grass. Therefore it was denied because the grass is part of the ground.
If it’s easy to accept Jaiswal’s dismissal as fair because the glove is part of the bat, then it’s equally easy to say Smith didn’t hold a fair catch because the grass he touched is part of the ground.
Relentless Boland rampant on SCG seamer, third umpire under fire over contentious calls as Aussies rip through India
SCG,
The problem is the media love the technology mumbo-jumbo. And since they provide the feed, they get the say. Anyway, we can never go back. But as fans we always have the choice of walking away, or protesting, or showing our displeasure somehow.
Relentless Boland rampant on SCG seamer, third umpire under fire over contentious calls as Aussies rip through India
Jack,
As I’m sure others will remind you, at Perth India only managed 150 then rolled Oz for 104. It was hugely embarrassing.
The Aussie batting lineup has been terribly inconsistent. I certainly wouldn’t want any of these guys to go & bat for my life, I just don’t trust them enough!
And Bumrah is the best bowler in either side…
Relentless Boland rampant on SCG seamer, third umpire under fire over contentious calls as Aussies rip through India
Wikipedia,
True, this is Bumrah’s best-ever series. Whether he can ever repeat this remains to be seen. But this is his high-water mark for sure.
Relentless Boland rampant on SCG seamer, third umpire under fire over contentious calls as Aussies rip through India
Tommy42069,
I’m not disputing the Jaiswal dismissal was anything but correct. But a legend like Gavaskar disagreed, following national lines.
Which leads to another problem: how can any of these commentators say themselves or anyone else has any integrity when they argue the Aussie fans will say he was out & the Indian fans will say he was in? Or vice versa as the case may be.
The whole point of having integrity is being able to make an opinion based on the evidence at hand without any bias whatsoever to your own nationality.
Clearly, by the definition I’ve just given, there are very few folk of integrity in the commentary box. Or in the stands for that matter.
There are so many inane wafflers in the commentary box. Give me back Benaud, Greig, Lawry & Chappelli anytime.
Relentless Boland rampant on SCG seamer, third umpire under fire over contentious calls as Aussies rip through India
It’s a sad indictment of modern test cricket, very sad in fact, that the biggest news of the past two tests has been TV umpiring issues, which has put the actual action on the field into the shade, despite some of the onfield action being extraordinary.
I’m beginning to wonder what the point of modern sport actually is when technology becomes more important than the players. Younger generations probably don’t mind because they don’t know any different.
But as someone who grew up in a different time where the onfield umpires had a nano second to make a decision, & most often got it right, I think what is happening now is pathetic.
Relentless Boland rampant on SCG seamer, third umpire under fire over contentious calls as Aussies rip through India
Good Grief,
That’s a good point – “it’s the professed certainty by experts in the commentary box that makes me roll my eyes and tell my TV to shut-up and stop talking like a fracking idiot”.
My rediscovered love of test cricket is quickly dissipating again wth these ubiquitous TV dismissal reviews. The spontaneity of the game is being lost with these interruptions.
I would rather we go back to the old days when the on-field umpire made an on the spot decision which remarkably they got right more often than not.
The problem with modern technology is that it’s made everyone lazier & over-inflated in their opinion! If you don’t rely on all your senses then you eventually lose them.
'Obvious should be out', 'right decision': Twin DRS controversies divide Indian, Aussie legends, Smith's spicy exchange
Peter Darrow,
Excellent article. I got to meet Topo Rodriguez many years after his career ended, & he talked often about mental depression, which he also suffered from.
Of course back in the day, guys were told to “just get on with it”, which really only demonstrated an appalling ignorance of the condition.
Sir John Kirwan was a brilliant winger - his work in mental health proved his character
I thought Gavaskar’s interpretation of Jaiswal’s dismissal in the Melbourne test was appallingly biased, but on this occasion I agree with him.
It appears quite conclusive that the ball from Kohli bubbled ever so slightly from Smith’s hand & brushed the grass, as explained by Gavaskar. The grass is part of the ground just as the gloves are part of the bat (ie, Jaiswal dismissal).
Smith did not have 100% control of the ball the entire time before he threw it up. We’re talking millimetres here, but since this is what we apparently want in our lives, then it comes down to millimetres.
So suck it up princesses. Before we wanted technology to impinge on things to the nth degree, the onfield umpires would have given that out.
Not anymore, now we waste minutes, arguing over millimetres or even micro-millimetres. Apparently that’s what we want, so suck it up.
'Obvious should be out', 'right decision': Twin DRS controversies divide Indian, Aussie legends, Smith's spicy exchange
Ben – clever!
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Rellum – okay thanks. I’ll quit while I’m behind! 😂
India fuming over controversial Jaiswal dismissal as Cummins gets sweet vindication in Australia’s epic MCG win
Rellum,
I think I meant every time at bat, not turn. Subtle difference, I think…..
India fuming over controversial Jaiswal dismissal as Cummins gets sweet vindication in Australia’s epic MCG win
Andrew,
Watch Jay Thomas tell David Letterman his story about meeting the (real) Lone Ranger when he & his mate were “herbed up”.
India fuming over controversial Jaiswal dismissal as Cummins gets sweet vindication in Australia’s epic MCG win
Rellum,
And in baseball I think 0.3 is considered outstanding for a batter. In other words, you make 1st base in just every 3 of 10 turns at bat.
India fuming over controversial Jaiswal dismissal as Cummins gets sweet vindication in Australia’s epic MCG win
Christo the Daddyo,
Like I said: “pot, meet kettle.”
'Would have loved to': Gavaskar hits out at trophy snub, Kohli's 'garbage' sandpaper sledge, Konstas savaged for 'almighty slog'