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your repeated yelling of base accusations of bias – none of which address the issue at hand – is just low rent trolling.
You make no argument, you bring no perspective, you add no value.
Can I please encourage you sincerely to reflect on your actions and ask yourself is this behaviour something you’ll be proud to tell people about on your death bed?
I’m more than happy to debate matters and hear your point of view. But this behaviour of yours doesn’t interest me and it adds no value to anything.
NRL’s silence on Robinson's unsubstantiated Whitehead outburst is weak gutted and hypocritical
I get your point, but when Trent goes all the way back to 2011 he’s gone with “you’re an incompetent fool” in my opinion.
To be consistent they need to address it.
NRL’s silence on Robinson's unsubstantiated Whitehead outburst is weak gutted and hypocritical
And who exactly are you “Slammin_Sam”? What’s your name? Where are you from? Who do you support? Who do you work for? Or are you just an anonymous troll?
NRL’s silence on Robinson's unsubstantiated Whitehead outburst is weak gutted and hypocritical
Robinson provided detail and assertions that Whitehead didn’t vaguely allude to. He wasn’t responding, he provided specific detail and accusations. He provided no substantiation for them, then or since.
Then he repeated them. multiple times. And then he said he’s been doing it his entire career.
Thats character assassination, pure and simple.
If you don’t agree that’s your business.
But can I suggest that you don’t make such assertions yourself in public forums. You might find the powers presiding over them take issue with them and call you to account.
NRL’s silence on Robinson's unsubstantiated Whitehead outburst is weak gutted and hypocritical
Robinson publicly accused Whitehead of performing tackles deliberately to injure his entire career. I’m not sure how you can write that off as simply criticising his tackling technique.
NRL’s silence on Robinson's unsubstantiated Whitehead outburst is weak gutted and hypocritical
On what do you base your argument.
Please detail your logic.
Or do you just want to troll from the anonymity of your pseudonym?
NRL’s silence on Robinson's unsubstantiated Whitehead outburst is weak gutted and hypocritical
So you’re saying that alleging a player has – over his entire career – intentionally gone out to injure his opponents isn’t directly attacking his character?
What planet do you live on?
You want to talk about suspect reasoning? Then I’d suggest you don’t make arguments that are so massively flawed.
And as I said, I’ll substantiate my position with examples RE Annesley. There are many.
Robinson just said “If you go and look…”
NRL’s silence on Robinson's unsubstantiated Whitehead outburst is weak gutted and hypocritical
Full disclosure: Absolutely I am a Raiders supporter and supporter of Ricky.
I do acknowledge then and now that he was out of line with his Jaemon Salmon comments – so does Ricky.
I expect a consistent approach from the NRL. We absolutely have not seen that in this instance. I’m calling it out.
NRL’s silence on Robinson's unsubstantiated Whitehead outburst is weak gutted and hypocritical
As stated above, here are the “pretty key piece(s) of information” you are accusing me of excluding (which I absolutely haven’t, but I’ll repeat them for your benefit):
1. This is what Robinson himself said was the entirety of the exchange with Whitehead: “it’s too many times, it’s cost us a player.” But in the presser he goes on to say this: “Yep, He’s done it a lot in his career, you know, so – um yeah – it’s been pretty common. If you go and have a look. It’s not, you know, I’ve watched him since he was in Bradford and Catalans and, you know – um, but its been pretty common.” That’s Robinson’s own words. He didn’t stop with “he’s done it too many times” in the presser, he slandered Whitehead’s whole career.
2. The on field exchange between the two was witnessed by members of the media. This is what led to questions about it in the presser. Whitehead did not bring it up of his own volition.
3. Whitehead made no reference whatsoever to the specifics of what Robinson said – when he was asked by a journo what had happened on the field between him and Robinson – just that Robinson had gone off at him and he thought that it was out of order. He was – as angry as he was – playing the incident down.
4. Robinson then used Whitehead referencing that he was unhappy with what Trent did as a lever to justify him saying that Whitehead was a serial hip drop offender dating back to 2011. Robinson was not responding, he was expounding. This absolutely slandered Whitehead. It was absolutely character assassination. How you can’t see the “overlap” astounds me.
5. Stuart was asked directly what he thought of Salmon kicking Starling in the Genitals – an in game incident – and responded with his comments. He did not launch into the topic apropos of nothing.
Robinson was way out of line, just as Stuart was, using an NRL forum to attack and slander a player. How differently the two incidents have played out with the NRL astounds me.
How you can think the two aren’t directly equateable astounds me…
NRL’s silence on Robinson's unsubstantiated Whitehead outburst is weak gutted and hypocritical
Absolutely disagree.
Robinson said that Elliott White head – since he has been watching him from 2011 – has been performing hip drop tackles. Tackles that are deliberately executed to injure opposition players.
Tackles that have been banned since 2020.
Robinson spoke in a public forum and said that a player with 413 games experience, the captain of his club, deliberately goes out to injure and has done it ever since he’s been watching him.
That is absolutely criticising him as both a person and as a player.
That is a comment that may stick to his record and tarnish his legacy.
And he offered no substantiation bar “If you go and have a look…”
How can you possibly say it is poles apart?
Is it perhaps because you like Robinson and don’t like Stuart?
NRL’s silence on Robinson's unsubstantiated Whitehead outburst is weak gutted and hypocritical
And what if she did? would that make the argument null and void?
NRL’s silence on Robinson's unsubstantiated Whitehead outburst is weak gutted and hypocritical
I don’t like this comment nearly as much as your Ancient Egyptian reference.
NRL’s silence on Robinson's unsubstantiated Whitehead outburst is weak gutted and hypocritical
I thought he was attempting a strip. But Whitehead is not fighting the charge.
NRL’s silence on Robinson's unsubstantiated Whitehead outburst is weak gutted and hypocritical
Your specific words, not mine.
My view is that often his explaining away of incidents draws very long bows.
Would you like me to cite examples?
I have many I can share, ones I know I’ve raised directly with him too.
The difference is I’ll substantiate my positions and I have done so frequently, using reasoned argument in the proper forums.
NRL’s silence on Robinson's unsubstantiated Whitehead outburst is weak gutted and hypocritical
By the way Don, my earlier comment – subsequently deleted by mods – was not intended to actually say nasty things about you, it was to display how very nasty things can be said in very formal manners.
That our mods chose to delete it actually supports my call that the NRL should be looking at the meaning of the message, not just the level of language.
But, in short, it was not my intent to actually say those things about you, rather I was making a point.
NRL’s silence on Robinson's unsubstantiated Whitehead outburst is weak gutted and hypocritical
But can it be proven true? And Hip Drops were only outlawed in 2020.
NRL’s silence on Robinson's unsubstantiated Whitehead outburst is weak gutted and hypocritical
“sadly, I must once more take issue with the publisher of this masthead…”
NRL’s silence on Robinson's unsubstantiated Whitehead outburst is weak gutted and hypocritical
“Gorski”
Hope you are well Nat.
NRL’s silence on Robinson's unsubstantiated Whitehead outburst is weak gutted and hypocritical
There is a great detail of inaccuracy in your comment.
1. This is what Robinson himself said was the entirety of the exchange with Whitehead: “it’s too many times, it’s cost us a player.” That’s Robinson’s own words. He does not go into any detail about expanding to Elliott in regard to hip drops and entire careers.
2. This exchange was witnessed by members of the media. This led to questions about it in the presser.
3. Whitehead made no reference whatsoever to the specifics of what Robinson said – when he was asked by a journo what had happened on the field between him and Robinson – just that he’d gone off at him and he thought that it was out of order. He was – as angry as he was – playing the incident down.
4. Robinson then used Whitehead referencing that he was unhappy with what Trent did as a lever to justify him saying that Whitehead was a serial hip drop offender dating back to 2011. This absolutely slandered and defamed Whitehead. It was absolutely character assassination. That you don’t think so is more a reflection on you than anything else.
5. Stuart was asked directly what he thought of Salmon kicking Starling in the Genitals and responded with his comments. He did not launch into the topic apropos of nothing, as you suggest.
6. Robinson was clearly just being critical of Whitehead and Whitehead only. I’m not sure how you’ve extrapolated anything further.
7. As I clearly point out, the NRL is a self-contained organisation, with their corporate over lords being able to sanction them and their actions. They would have zero concerns with culpability I’d reckon.
Robinson was way out of line. And yes, my whole point is that I’m astounded how differently the two incidents played out.
It should be noted that hip drop tackles were only banned in 2020 and that this is the first time that Whitehead has been suspended for the offence.
NRL’s silence on Robinson's unsubstantiated Whitehead outburst is weak gutted and hypocritical
I think it is a very derogatory term in the underworld. Personally I think dogs are awesome.
NRL’s silence on Robinson's unsubstantiated Whitehead outburst is weak gutted and hypocritical
I totally get how upset Robbo was. He’s a coach trying to win a comp and he’s just suffered an horrendous injury toll. I actually feel for him and, while I can’t condone what he said, I totally understand the emotion behind it. Just as I understood the emotion behind Ricky’s inappropriate outburst.
Perhaps we shouldn’t force emotional coaches into press conferences post match.
But then Fox wouldn’t get their content, and News Limited wouldn’t get these news making incidents…
NRL’s silence on Robinson's unsubstantiated Whitehead outburst is weak gutted and hypocritical
Except Squealer works for Napoleon…
NRL’s silence on Robinson's unsubstantiated Whitehead outburst is weak gutted and hypocritical
Whitehead brought up no specifics. He was asked by a journalist what had happened between them post match on the field and he said that Robinson had a go at him. He said he thought it was out of order. He gave no specifics. Robinson then assassinated Whiteheads entire career. In my opinion, it was excrable behaviour. If you’re happy with coaches doing that at pressers, good luck to you.
NRL’s silence on Robinson's unsubstantiated Whitehead outburst is weak gutted and hypocritical
Pickett, Robinson slandered whitehead exactly the same as Stuart did to Salmon. He just used g rated words. He slandered him in a professional capacity too. Whitehead made no reference to what Robinson said – when he was asked by a journo what had happened on the field between him and Robinson – just that he’d gone off at him. Robinson used that as an excuse to call whitehead a serial thug and cheat.
To quote Elliott He were out of order.
NRL’s silence on Robinson's unsubstantiated Whitehead outburst is weak gutted and hypocritical
I’m engaging you on the things you’ve said.
You said this: “ You trying to frame Robinson’s comments to be in the same postcode as Stuart’s “weak gutted dog” rant makes the argument null and void.” that’s not a light hearted joke. And I’m fully up for debating it with you. I’m not hurt at all. I was just enquiring as to your status as a commenter.
I’ve asked you to expound. You may well have valid points I haven’t considered. The floor is yours.
NRL’s silence on Robinson's unsubstantiated Whitehead outburst is weak gutted and hypocritical