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For sure but while there is still a possibility my thoughts are the longer it drags on now the less the chance. Hopefully he can see his way clear to continue
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Yeah mate fair enough, Kiwis are almost paranoid when NZ rugby is criticised. The argument that 14 games in Rugby is too onerous but 24 in league is OK is hardly credible. And I notice your claim that I have got a lot wrong, well if that’s true JD has got a helluva lot more wrong. It’s all about – “ how dare anyone criticise NZ rugby”. The fact is SR is on a lifeline almost but how could NZ be held accountable at all, it’s always down to someone else.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
Now you are denying what you said. I repeat if you cannot complete a season of 14 matches even with one bye it says the S& C program is sub standard. This is typical Kiwi, must always defend NZ regardless of facts. Your argument about League is frankly rubbish. And claiming sports science says so when you did not even know the meaning of anaerobic hardly smacks of credibility over those statements. Why are Kiwis so precious and insecure when it comes to Rugby.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
But you argued 14 games was excessive.. And your argument about League holds no water. The game is more non stop, less rest time during the game and any player , especially ex rugby players – will tell you that the up and back in defence is highly taxing.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
JD Kiwi assured me non test players are stood down because 14 matches with 2 byes is too onerous- sports science say so. But OK for NRL players to have no stand downs in a 24 match season- sports science says so.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
Yeah but to stand down players from SR so they can play NPC or club rugby would be dumb. NPC is a huge financial drain, if players need to be rested it should be in the NPC season. It would be like resting players from Test rugby so they could play SR.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
I am not talking about the COVID years. 2 different subjects.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
Yep knew that. The MP team is a worry- crowds are extremely poor. Whether it can be sustained long term is debatable . Fiji gets great home crowds- but I have no idea on ticket prices, you would have thought quite low. To keep these 2 teams going is another reason SR has to become more successfully viable.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
I got the info about NZR wanting SA out from articles in the NZ media written by Kiwis. The articles claimed NZR wanted to be the sole governing body of SR. So is that correct? Who knows but it was not some Aussie take, it was a Kiwi take.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
Well NRL logic hardly applies. League in NZ is more of a minority sport than Rugby in Aussie plus Aussie has 5 times the population. I think 4 will work well. It keeps a footprint in WA and with Twiggy as the backer finances are less of a concern.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
Yeah I could be wrong but I thought an Asian team was floated. Also to ditch Aussie teams to include PI teams was not smart economically. Very little to bring to the table in terms of broadcast rights etc. The current Fiji team in SR is subsidised by the Aussie government. I doubt that would happen in NZ controlled comp. The whole scheme was hare brained and doomed from the start.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
Give it a rest. Qualifications are what they are. If it improves the competitiveness of Test Rugby it’s a plus. Plus it gives players more opportunity to compete at higher level and it’s clear by the outcomes that some thrive in a different environment.
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Perfect sense if you can look past personal bias. So 14 games with 2 byes is too much. My arguments have been consistent and realistic rather than desperately trying to defend the R&R policy because it’s Kiwi.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
Anaerobic refers to using short intense exercise, running long distance is aerobic. I would think there is more anaerobic exercise in NRL. They have to get back quickly and then go forward quickly and this is constantly repeated testing both your anaerobic and aerobic fitness. Very similar to the Bronco test. And NRL players play far more games in a row than SR. You have contradicted yourself there.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
That’s right but the resting normally only applies at the latter end of the season with no effect on finals position. The argument that sports science says you cannot get through a 14 game season with 2 byes seems nonsensical.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
Geez, irrelevant because I responded to your claims over the anaerobic nature of the games. If you cannot last a 14 game season with 2 byes without a stand down that is a serious indictment of the S & C programs. You keep quoting sports science- what is your reference. Most of your claims simply are that. Your ability to ignore reality and facts is quite good. It’s quite apparent that you are not interested in the facts but are focused on defending NZ rugby and denying that the management of the comp has led to a serious decline. Aussie certainly has a lot of the blame but NZR also has let the comp down.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
It’s 14 games normal season , that is short. Compare that to the NH or NRL. If you cannot get through a season without stand downs it’s an indictment of fitness. It’s all about the ABs . Let’s be honest about that. The stand downs are excessive. If NRL players can withstand a 24 game normal season without stand downs maybe the sports science you are spruiking is not correct. I have no issue with some stand downs for regular Test players but there needs to be some respect for SR as a comp.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
Are you saying non test players cannot cope with a 14 week season including 2 byes. Good grief. I doubt that Rugby is more demanding anaerobically than the NRL, probably the reverse .In NRL in defence there is moving back to the 10 and up in defence at speed whereas in Rugby the defence is far flatter requiring less anaerobic effort. But all’s OK, everything is great with SR, no problems despite declining income, exodus of players overseas and even the governing bodies acknowledging the decline. Unfortunately they are too afraid of handing over control to a body , got to keep the power in their hands even though they have failed.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
A sabbatical – that normally involves playing more games than ever with a Japanese contract. And your comment only proves my point. SR is treated as development comp, not as a professional comp in its own right. So Taylor misses virtually the whole season even though the Crusaders are struggling and just turns up for the International season. Great respect for SR.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
SR is only 14 matches including 2 byes. A short comp by comparison. The NH comps are far longer thus some justification for rest games. Your comparison does not hold up for other than perhaps regular AB starters who have a long Test season.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
The SR season is very short. It’s a total of 14 matches plus Finals with a couple of byes for rest. NRL is 24 matches plus Finals also with byes. Likewise the NH comps are far longer. The odd stand down for AB starters is fine. Those who are not ABs or mainly benchwarmers have no need of a stand down. 14 matches including 2 byes is hardly onerous. RL still only have 8 interchanges. Probably less physical contact in the forwards but constantly retreating the 10 in defence is very demanding. The amount of downtime in Rugby is far higher than the NRL which is non stop by comparison so more demanding aerobically.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
I think Aussie improving will enhance SR in Aussie. I am not so sure in NZ.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
It’s also about perceptions. Aussie SR will need several seasons of good results to bring back support, it will not happen overnight.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
The attempt by NZR to run SR was ill conceived and as was proven in a very short time frame totally bizarre. If you cannot recognise SR is on a downhill slide with its drop in popularity there is little I can say. The lack of money in both countries is only going to imperil Rugby in this part of the world. SR desperately needs to be a viable comp that attracts the casual sports watcher, the rusted ons are not a large enough group to sustain the game. Test rugby will always be the pinnacle but alone can no longer finance the game. SR must improve as a product, it’s that simple.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
Clearly you have not followed the thread. JD was claiming 14 games in a season requires stand downs. . But 24 in the NRL does not. Players just do not get stood down in general in the NRL. It’s rubbish to claim 14 games is excessive in Rugby but 24 in the NRL is fine. It’s bluster trying to cover up the excessive stand down policy of NZR.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out