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Actually mate, good rugby tough matches draw crowds as a rule, well here in NZ. When ABs play a tier 2 team and you pretty sure it onesided they take games to small stadiums as they haven’t got drawing power.. Same as super rugby, when Force or MP who generally struggle to win, local fans tend to leave it until the top teams come when wins aren’t assured. Noone really get’s into easy wins, or reasonable certain wins (as close as you can get for certain etc)
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
I agree scrum, why NPC players don’t have stand downs in SR, only test players do. Not sure where you heard they do.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
Yep mate, could well be true, I really don’t I have no idea of Aussie players minutes. I know DP Kirifi played more than almost anyone in 2023, that included Super, NPC and ABs XV games.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
Scrum, our media is no better than your is Aus mate, never take their word as gospel. As I said I was actually listening when NZR announced it, so that was only place I took notice of.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
You do know that the MP team is subsidised by NZR don’t you , and they put up money for Drua’s license application? Not that makes any difference, the teams are there and good on them.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
Not sure about the aerobic discussion srum, but non test players in NZ then go into a NPC comp. and don’t Aus players go to Club rugby? I not sure of numbers etc in OZ , but in general even non test palyers are involved from Feb until mid Oct, not a 14 week season by any means.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
I not sure how many minutes when you say up to so many minutes, how many minutes do thay actually play? All I know is players do have ceilings put on playing time by Player’s Assoc, and I think almost all reasonable Unions will not run players into ground, player wefare etc. Probably one of problems for Super is it played before RC ,EOYT, so you need to make sure players have enough minutes up sleeves for test rugby requirements.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
I agree Uncle, you can’t really have an independant commission unless the players are all paid by clubs only. We hear a lot of ideas how it will change things etc, but they still bound by the fact that the best players get the biggest part of their income from their home union (ie RA ,NZR,RU etc). Also outside of SA, and Argentina (in top tier) Unions don’t allow their players to play whereever they want. And even in France (who I don’t know where they stand on players overseas) the teams aren’t allowed as many overseas players as they want, that is controlled by FRU to make sure French eligible players are getting game time. So not sure of any fully independant comps in World.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
No NZ in announcement only said they wanted PI team/s if possible. Weren’t the asian teamd something Twiggy was trying in the funnu comp he tried to set up for Force?? I know I never heard NZR or RA suggest asian teams
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
Couldn’t agree more about independant commission to run game, also something that NZR said was needed when SA’s went. I was more pissed at them and RA for not getting that set up earlier than anything. Hopefully what is being set up is a big step in right direction. Though will unfortunately ever be truly independant while NZR and RA pay wages of players. But no comp in world is ever truly independant of governing body and can’t really be anyway.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
I think the other trouble is scrum, if SRP is just s development for ABs, the NZR made a huge mistake in cutting SA (if indeed they did) as most realistic people know that having SA in super rugby is much better for developing ABs (and Wallabies) than not, as they give experience of a different style of play.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
Actually scrum, I think you will find that players in NH play no more minutes in general then those in SH. I don;t watch NRL anyway, but does their season go from Feb until end of Nov? And isn’t that comp a hell of a lot more important than test matches. That how long international rugby players goes for, and if you think they should play all games in that time, I am afraid you don’t understand how the body or mind needs rest etc. And does NZR use super as a development comp for test rugby, probably as does RA and why? When the Wallabies do poorly , rugby popularity in Aus fades, well did when I was there etc. Both NZR abd RA (and every other union in world), know that they need success of their test teams. That’s why they have top ups of wages etc for test players.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
Scrum, there was no number of Aus teams, the NZR said when setting it up they thought the ideal number was10-12 teams, hopefully 1 or 2 from islands, but the criteria they wanted was that teams had to be competitive and financially viable. I watched the the announcement on tv by NZR, there were no number of teams from anywhere, just had to show they were competititve and financial. I not sying they hadled it right, but SR was already in trouble and was with RA and SA insisting on having extra teams in (Rebels etc) when they didn’t have the players (or as shown in case of Rebels, the financials). I strongly disagreed with losing SA, and was surpried that suddenly Australia suddenly wanted them, as while I lived in Aus I heard time and again they should of been thrown out because of time of games etc. I wanted SA in because I like their style of play, ad given a choice I would have SA over Aus as partner in Super. I know it not realistic or anti Aus ot anything, justsaying as a rugby man given a choice who I would enjoy watching NZ teams play it was SA teams. And yes I do still enjoy super anyway with Aus teams.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
I do disgree with you scrum, and I live in NZ. The whole RnR thing is almost a beat up, almost every team rests their top players against lesser teams whether they ABs or not.I went to PN to watch Canes play Force a couple of years back, Canes rested probably 8 of their first team (not ABs) won easily, and the feeling was no probs, don’t play top players every game. It’s a fact of life that teams need and want their top players fresh as well as try and keep whole squad match fit/ready for when they needed. Watch NH rugby, same things happen, teams trvelling to SA (or reverse) will often leave a lot of top suqd at hame to keep important players fresh.
'We switch off': All Blacks great says Super Rugby's future depends on Australia pulling its finger out
Also would probably have to have commentators, as I suspect it will be broadcast in Japaneses, and guess th money doesn’t add up?
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I don’t have and never had a problem with the players using grandparent rule, it’s there so they take advantage.
I have a problem that the rule exists at all for any country, whether it NH, Pacific Islands etc etc. But as I said, it not just in rugby, it in most sports where there is some pretty iffy rules who you can represent.
Rugby's rotten flaw: Why it's time for World Rugby to protect southern nations from northern raiders
I not sure how much NH rugby you actually watch king, but it every bit as good as anything down this way. Rugby has never had to have forward hit up etc, we have always been able to play open etc rugby. The whole NH boring rugby thing is a myth, maybe used to have to be a slugfest, but the improvement in drainage on field and artificial turf has shown how well they can play the game. The biggest change in our game was professionalism where rugby became a defence first sport. And going pro was really driven by SH I think. That’s just my take on rugby that I have watched over the years.
Rugby's rotten flaw: Why it's time for World Rugby to protect southern nations from northern raiders
How have they destroyed rugby worldwide?? Buggered if I can see it?
Rugby's rotten flaw: Why it's time for World Rugby to protect southern nations from northern raiders
Piru 👍 😂
Rugby's rotten flaw: Why it's time for World Rugby to protect southern nations from northern raiders
Hoping ot nowhere near as bad as Roigards, as from what is getting reported we hearing worst case scenario.
'Huge loss': All Blacks young gun in doubt for ENTIRE Super Rugby season as Chiefs coach confirms knee op
Rumour has been around for a week or so about his injury Bluffboy, and from what I hearing it seems he was on holiday (overseas?) from end of EOYT, so him being young etc, it probably wasn’t picked up as a problem until he turned up to preseason training? He was walking etc on it ok, Remember when we were young and tended to not worry about things like a sore knee. I would hope he maybe realises now to get things checked etc.
'Huge loss': All Blacks young gun in doubt for ENTIRE Super Rugby season as Chiefs coach confirms knee op
I think it is wrong to point fingers at NH teams for anything. In fact even PI teams have players who eligible through the grandparent rule. I admit to being of the school of thought you should only represent where you are either born, or live/d long term, not grandparents of even parents.. But thats just me, and I understand not ebveryone agrees. At the moment a player could actually in extreme cases be able to represent 4 diiferent countries (grandparents), plus 2 more with parents, then be born in another country and reside long term in another. Making a total 8 countries. I know it never happen etc, but that scenario is possible. I actually not sure of any sport that is really tough thogh.
Rugby's rotten flaw: Why it's time for World Rugby to protect southern nations from northern raiders
Well the answer is in the population scrum. In NZ and Australia (or rest of world) people leave smaller towns to live in cities because where there are more people they see more (rightly or wrongly) opportunity.
Rugby Australia on track to confirm broadcast extension with Nine, NZRU set to cop multimillion-dollar downgrade
Moriaty,n ot suggesting Aussie are answer, but funnily enough Aussie gov’t and companies are quite aggressively recruiting from over here. Do you think Australia recruiting only qualified people from NZ to fill in their shortfall of education system is the answer? But I do agree with you that perhaps there should be a visa system for travel etc between both countries, I got a few family over that are Aussies who came over here the same way.
Rugby Australia on track to confirm broadcast extension with Nine, NZRU set to cop multimillion-dollar downgrade
I haven’t FF. 😂 I got no grandparents born outside of NZ, neither have my kids , grandkids, or great grandkids! 😊
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